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My sister,you express your love for Christ by living for him ,and you live for him by loving the brethren,and you love the brethren by living your life to see Christ manifest in their life.It is important that we explain the word rightly and not use the veil in our heart and our experience to explain the word of God.Haven't you read in your bible,that perfect love casts out all fears,and we have that perfect love if we have the Spirit of Christ,check yourself if you are still in the faith,if you do not have this Spirit of Love.We are not called to live for ourself,we have no right to ask God to help us with our motivations and dreams cos if we are truly saved,we dare not have one but HIS'.Most of us today are full of selfish ambitions which are things we intend to do for God.Why not accept it,you are dead,it is Jesus living in you,stop living for yourself,start seeking his will to live for him and the things of this world you need will be given you.Any man that has a fear of failing a fellow man is in deception,that person is deluded,that person has refused to retain the knowledge of God in his mind,he or she should repent (turn away from that) and satan will leave you alone.Turn away from selfish ambitions and the demon of fear will leave you alone.How do i know if i have selfish ambition,if i have the apprehension and fear of failure,simple.If the visions and dreams pomps me up when i think about,when the dream and vision clearly portrays my name instead of Jesus,when it puts me above my brethren instead of brings me to my brethren.I might say something that might sound controversial but if you read the new testament very well you will prove me right,even the desire to be rich is sin,it is a selfish ambition.I will give you one example,Jesus himself says that you should not worry about the things of the world that the sinners seek after them,but you should seek,desire only the kingdom of God and any material thing u need per time will be given to you.We need the knowledge of the true gospel,this is the reason i asked a question about the gospel and encouraged all the youths to start searching,if you have a glimpse of the true gospel,it will change your life,it will radically ruin your life for eternity for Jesus....Did i make some sense?If not please correct me brethren.....

I suppose another aspect to add would be that we could ask God to help us in our motivations. So that fear should not be our primary source of motivation because it can be a double edged sword. As to doing things because you fear failing someone you love, i believe that God made us not only to love him but to love one another. I dont see how loving someone else would be contradicting loving Christ. Infact loving our fellow man is loving Christ! I am not saying that loving others should replace our love for Jesus, but good golly should we never forget that Christ expects us to love one another too!

The whole concept of fear of failing ourselves,God,family, friends and whatever is NOT from GOD. Fear is indeed a "dream thief". The bottom line is whatever we set our eyes and minds to do and there is fear, we should question our motives first, then go back and make sure that's in line with scripture. If it is, and I hope it should, then ask God for courage. In fact, to be biblically correct I should rather say, " we ask the Holy Spirit to help us". Remember, my brethren, there is an adversary who wants to make sure you do not fulfill you call. The bible says , " the thief cometh but to kill, still and destroy..". Therefore, while there may be fear of all sorts, they should not stop us from doing what God has called us to do. I know ejay might still be unsatisfied but that is the cold truth. This is rather the problem, the reaction of others to our efforts. While fear could be a motivation for others, it is also a deterrant to some.. We should all agree that ALL sorts of fear is no good, except the fear of the LORD!!!
Hope that help ejay...

UHm... wat I can say is dat it can be gud and bad.. Gud as in it can be encouraging in regards to u quitting but it can be bad when related to u being scared to make a move in life cos u r always thinking abt the negative...wat if I fail...Y NOT think abt the wat if I actually take this step and it actually ends up being sumthing dats benefitting??
Besides..in Psalm 27Verse1 lets us understand that With God by our side we really shoudnt be afraid of anything..cos really and truly God wouldnt lead us to the road of destruction.
Therefore in conclusion, I think it can be a gud or a bad thing! but its really up to us which ever one we want it to be!!!

fear that prevents people from fulfilling their aspirations......what aspiration..selfish ambition or the purpose of God.We are telling personal experiences that inhibits the word of God.You do not separate yourself unto God because of fear of failing him,that is fallacy,you separate yourself unto God because thats what he has called you to do and not fear of failing him.There is only one fear,the fear of God,open the book of proverbs and see what the fear of God does to a man,there it says that the fear of man is a snare,a trap.When you are afraid of failing in an aspiration,failing your family,failing people,its the fear of man,it traps you away from God to this earth.We have to make the scriptures our experience instead making our experiences to explain scriptures.A motivation that comes from the fear of failure is the flesh at work and the Lord says that it profits nothing ad useless.The only motivation should come from the holy spirit and the living word of God-Jesus Christ.When you have the fear of failure on an issue,there is 99.9% possibility that it is not of God,because when God speaks,his word sustains you and fear dries away.Ejay,you said guarding something in order not to loose the trust of someone you love,who is that?Is that person God?Are you living for that person of for Jesus?Thats the main reason Jesus said if you do not hate your family,you cannot be my disciples because it is in human beings to please each other.You are not your own,you are bought with a price,you are a slave of Jesus Christ,instead of pleasing your master ,you are worried about pleasing someone who is not your master.Go and read about the slave trade,slaves do not have personal ambitions but to serve the master.Paul,John called themselves bond-servants of Jesus,that is an acute slave that doesn't demand freedom from the master.Why are we only given personal answer that inhibits Christ,where is Christ in all these fear,if you are saved,you are not your own,stop living for men but for Jesus.if im wrong again,please let me know

messengermicah, I really think you misunderstood my question. You are talking about the fear of failing men or pleasing men instead of God and that is not the concept. It's more of guarding something so dearly or making an extra effort in other not to loose the trust of someone you Love. Does that makes you a people pleaser or a carnal Christians? I don't think so! As Christians, we carefully watch what we say, what we do, where we go, in other not to disappoint or fail God. Even though his grace is sufficient for us. Now tell me how different that is from being afraid to fail the people we Love. Now... Fear on the other hand could enwrap people and prevent them from making an effort towards their aspirations. This is the kind of fear we need to ask God to liberate us from if we have it. I call it "the dream killer fear".

My comment is that fear of failure is a good thing because when you are afraid to fail you are able to push yourself even further into your goal. An example I can give is about how I play soccer. Sometimes I have goals to prove to my team that I can be better then what I am already, so the fear of failing is the one that pushes me to make sure I achieve my goal. On the other hand fear stops some people from achieving they're goals which I understand but I think its our job to help and give advise to our brothers and sisters who hold back on they're goals because of fear. I hope I helped answering your question and I’m hoping to see more responses to this question.

I guess maybe the question here is addressing the reactions of fear. The way Im understanding this, sometimes when we are afraid of failing people we love, the fear becomes a motivant for our good. I think the problem comes when fear stiffles you and makes you not do what God wants from you---robes you of your purpose. But i, especially, get highly motivated to finish or do stuff when there is a fear of failing people that i love so in this aspect i understand what Ejay is saying. Do we not seperate ourselves to live a holy life before God because of our fear of failing HIm? Is there a difference between this type of fear and the fear that paralyses u?

My comments are most of the time misunderstood but that will not discourage me from giving comments that will help us adjust as we learn from from each other.Reading the above post carefully you will understand that it is all about me as an individual instead of God.What if I fail instead of asking for the Lord's concern.What if you fail in what?In life?Are you still living for yourself?if you are ,then you are bound to live with fear forever,are you still living to please men,then same way fear will taunt you.But when you are saved,you are no longer your own,you are bought with a price,you are called to live and serve the purpose of God in your generation not to live and serve your ambitions and the desires of men for your life.If you understand this and apply it in your life,you will be free from fear,fear will just leave you alone automatically,when it comes you tell him,you are late,i am no longer mine,i am dead,it is Jesus Christ.
1Co 6:20 for you are bought with a price. Therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God's.
1Co 7:23 You are bought with a price, do not be the slaves of men.
Our problem is we want to hear things that will soothe us instead of the help we need brethren.This is the reason why he said that he hasn't given us the spirit of fear because that fear reigns in the old man.If you read the post above,you will realize that the life example that given above is a person that lives for himself and to please men instead of living for Jesus.The song writer said that his fear is his courage while the scriptures says that the joy of the Lord is my strength.
To answer your question.....Such fear is unnecessary when we are living for Jesus,the fear is a sign that we are claiming to be of Jesus but are living for ourselves,in essence we are robbing and cheating him,we are wasting his grace and not making use of the eternal life we have claimed to have received.Think about it brethren...please..If i misunderstand your question and answered it wrongly,please tell me...